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Re: 2016 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #90 on: July 30, 2015, 09:23:29 PM »

Last year they rolled out the Road Glide custom and classic at Sturgis.  They had one or two other same as it always was models there too.  Meh.

The majority on here might hate them, but last year I sure felt the love at the Indian tent.  From Indian towards us and from the crowd towards them.  Take the biggest event of the year in motorcycling and show everything to everyone.

Harley does the dealer only unveil and then you have to wait and hope your dealer gets the model and color you've seen online so you can tell what the level of suck is going to be in the picture comparisons.  By the time they roll around in Milwaukee or York Open house riding season is coming to an end. Meh.
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Re: 2016 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #91 on: July 31, 2015, 08:11:33 AM »

Sorry.  Stuck in the pre Rushed More names.  Standard, and Special.  At least I didn't call it a Tour Glide!  :D
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Re: 2016 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #92 on: July 31, 2015, 11:28:14 AM »

Sorry.  Stuck in the pre Rushed More names.  Standard, and Special.  At least I didn't call it a Tour Glide!  :D
Ha Ha! Tour Glide. I've seen pictures of those.
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Re: 2016 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #93 on: July 31, 2015, 02:26:16 PM »

I just saw the CARB reports and there will be a 2016 Road Glide Ultra with a TwinCooled 103.

According to the posts, all 3 touring CVOs will return for 2016; CVO Road Glide Ultra, CVO Ultra Limited, and CVO Street Glide, and still with the Twin Cooled 110".

I didn't see many changes of note in the sheets posted. They're Not going to the 110"/120" in any models posted. They may add it to select models not yet posted, but it wouldn't be widespread and I'm not very optimistic.

They have posted the Sportster, Street, and now Touring.  I haven't seen the Softails or Dynas yet.
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Re: 2016 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #94 on: July 31, 2015, 04:35:06 PM »

Harley Fights Cheap Asian Bikes by Making Fewer Hogs
The motorcycle maker is still persuaded that less is more

By Kyle Stock - Jul 21, 2015, 9:50:16 AM


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Harley-Davidson, which typically clings to market share like damp leather on a middle-aged biker, said on Tuesday morning that it would continue to restrain motorcycle production while the dollar remains strong. This is an uncommon and prideful strategic turn, and it’s weighing on results.

Motorcycle revenue at the company dropped by 10 percent, to $1.7 billion, in the quarter ended June 28 on shipments of just 85,172 bikes, almost 8 percent fewer than in the year-earlier period. Profit slid 15 percent, to $300 million.

The frustrating thing for Matthew Levatich, Harley’s new chief executive officer, is that consumers are really into motorcycles these days. In the past six months, registrations of new "heavy bikes" in the U.S. surged by 7.6 percent while those in Europe jumped by almost 10 percent. In a recent interview, Levatich shrugged off rising competition from domestic brands such as Polaris’s resurgent Indian line. The problem, he says, is the strong dollar—specifically, Asian brands that are slashing prices in the U.S.

“We’re poised to perform as never before—and then, whack: currencies,” Levatich tells me.

Here’s where foreign competitors have an edge: A single U.S. dollar now buys 23 percent more yen than it did a year ago. Take a Kawasaki Ninja 300 that sells in the U.S. for around $5,299. A year ago, that would have translated to ¥537,319 yen; the same price today commands ¥659,037 yen. A company such as Kawasaki can pocket the difference or cut prices and make the same return. “They automatically have a 20 percent to 30 percent gift in their [profit-and-loss] statement,” Levatich says. “Some Japanese brands simply repriced entirely.”

Harley’s decision not to slash prices in turn, is a bit of swagger, a subtle way of saying: Our bikes are better. It also aligns the company with current Harley owners, as a dip in sticker prices would dent the resale value of used bikes.

Investors, meanwhile, seem sanguine about the plan. Harley beat expectations this morning and the stock is surging. Still, things may get worse for Harley before they get better. Levatich said that his currency hedges will slowly unwind over the next few months, leaving the company even more exposed to Ninjas.
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Re: 2016 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #95 on: July 31, 2015, 08:25:43 PM »

I just saw the CARB reports and there will be a 2016 Road Glide Ultra with a TwinCooled 103.

According to the posts, all 3 touring CVOs will return for 2016; CVO Road Glide Ultra, CVO Ultra Limited, and CVO Street Glide, and still with the Twin Cooled 110".

I didn't see many changes of note in the sheets posted. They're Not going to the 110"/120" in any models posted. They may add it to select models not yet posted, but it wouldn't be widespread and I'm not very optimistic.

They have posted the Sportster, Street, and now Touring.  I haven't seen the Softails or Dynas yet.

Bastards!!!!!! They're only supposed to make that bike every four years so I don't feel like getting a new one again!! Not to mention keeping the value on the current ones up a little. :sauer005:
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Re: 2016 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #96 on: July 31, 2015, 08:56:35 PM »

1.  Harley Fights Cheap Asian Bikes by Making Fewer Hogs

By Kyle Stock - Jul 21, 2015, 9:50:16 AM

2.  “We’re poised to perform as never before—and then, whack: currencies,” Levatich tells me.
1.  They're making fewer bc they're selling fewer.  The dealers already have plenty of stock that isn't selling, so no need to make more.

2.  Levatich complains about the strong dollar, but that same strong dollar also reduces MoCo's cost for foreign-sourced parts.  He's blaming "currencies" to avoid trashing the previous CEO.  HD knows the brand name's legendary high price is one of their best assets, so they don't want to ruin it by selling bikes cheaply.  So they're between a rock and...
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Re: 2016 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #97 on: August 01, 2015, 12:52:08 AM »

 Been in 4 of the local dealers in the last month, VERY few 2015 bikes in stock......except in the showroom where there were no prices displayed. They had a fair number of new ones in stock.
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Re: 2016 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #98 on: August 01, 2015, 05:44:52 AM »

Been in 4 of the local dealers in the last month, VERY few 2015 bikes in stock......except in the showroom where there were no prices displayed. They had a fair number of new ones in stock.
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Never did like a dealer who does that....seems like every one that does that has some crazy dealer mark-up that's way over MSRP   :nixweiss:
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Re: 2016 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #99 on: August 01, 2015, 06:15:15 AM »

Here is the link to the carb report.  Being an owner of a 2015 SESG, I'm somewhat relieved.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/hmc/2016/2016.php

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Re: 2016 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #100 on: August 01, 2015, 08:02:23 AM »

Yeah, the local dealers in this area always seem to run their inventory down towards the end of summer so the floor is pretty empty in August and early Sept.
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Re: 2016 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #101 on: August 01, 2015, 08:21:07 AM »

The currency issue is real. Especially the relationship between the $ and the euro. It has a huge impact.
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Re: 2016 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #102 on: August 01, 2015, 10:11:33 AM »

Never did like a dealer who does that....seems like every one that does that has some crazy dealer mark-up that's way over MSRP   :nixweiss:

It's something I haven't seen since back when you had to wait in line to buy a Harley, no price display so they can charge whatever they like.
That particular dealership is owned by a large multi-line auto dealer who is the very definition of sleeze-bag ass-hat car dealerships. One of those who's sales staff chases you across the lot, and charges $20K over MSRP for Dodge Hellcats. I promised them 10 years ago I'd never do a penny's worth of business with them and have stuck to that promise. The only reason I was in the Harley shop was because I was close and had to crap so it seemed fitting.
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Re: 2016 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #103 on: August 01, 2015, 10:46:20 AM »

Here is the link to the carb report.  Being an owner of a 2015 SESG, I'm somewhat relieved.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/hmc/2016/2016.php

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Re: 2016 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #104 on: August 01, 2015, 08:47:49 PM »

I just saw the CARB reports and there will be a 2016 Road Glide Ultra with a TwinCooled 103.

According to the posts, all 3 touring CVOs will return for 2016; CVO Road Glide Ultra, CVO Ultra Limited, and CVO Street Glide, and still with the Twin Cooled 110".

I didn't see many changes of note in the sheets posted. They're Not going to the 110"/120" in any models posted. They may add it to select models not yet posted, but it wouldn't be widespread and I'm not very optimistic.

They have posted the Sportster, Street, and now Touring.  I haven't seen the Softails or Dynas yet.
Bastards!!!!!! They're only supposed to make that bike every four years so I don't feel like getting a new one again!! Not to mention keeping the value on the current ones up a little. :sauer005:

I'm alright with the CVO Road Glide Ultra, cause it does not have a 120 in it.  Makes it easier to resist.  Also it means there is not a CVO Road Glide Custom or Special, so I can resist.

I really want a CVO Road Glide Special with a 120 8)  or a CVO Road Glide ultra with a 120 8)
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