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[TIF2]

Depending on how harde the rubber bumpers are, I don't see any reason why you can't use both. I haven't pulled my seat to see if the mount point is recessed or not (it should be).

I read through the install intructions and didn't see a statement that the "fix" is not compatible with the saddlebag guards.
Did I miss it?

[grc]

Depending on how harde the rubber bumpers are, I don't see any reason why you can't use both. I haven't pulled my seat to see if the mount point is recessed or not (it should be).

I read through the install intructions and didn't see a statement that the "fix" is not compatible with the saddlebag guards.
Did I miss it? 

Yup, you missed it.


Jerry

[TIF2]

Yup, you missed it.


Jerry

I'm not old enough for "cheaters".
That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!

Thanks for making sure I didn't miss the fact that I missed it 
I'm not gonna mess with it... a different seat for me. Still sux though.

[grc]

No,  I had the seat problem with the rear saddlebag guards installed. So, you choose: take the fix and don't get saddlebag guards or buy a Corbin or C&C seat. It's a shame the HD is taking the cheap way out on such an expensive bike. The seat pan was manufactured weak and sags. The right thing to do is manufacture a seat with a new pan and exchange the faulty seat.

  


As I've noted many times on this site, the right thing to do is usually the last thing Harley considers.  And yet people keep begging them to take their money for this kind of crap.  

BTW, I think I remember suggesting way back that the fix would probably wind up being some kind of bumper between the frame and seat pan.  Unlike some on this site, I'm totally aware of the way H-D management deals with their screwups.  First deny any problem, then claim to be working on it even though it isn't really a problem, then drag it out and hope people go away, and if they don't go away come out with a mickey mouse, cheapest thing possible "fix" that applies a bandaid to the real problem.  Ask the guys with the 2007 CVO110 engines if that statement is wrong.


Jerry

[Sun Devil]

RE: Depending on how hard the rubber bumpers are, I don't see any reason why you can't use both. I haven't pulled my seat to see if the mount point is recessed or not (it should be).

The bumpers are not rubber. They are a hard plastic. Perhaps a grove could be milled (drummel). I'm have them installed tomorrow. I'll take pictures and see if there is any room to alter to allow the saddelbags guards.

[Fired00d]

RE: Depending on how hard the rubber bumpers are, I don't see any reason why you can't use both. I haven't pulled my seat to see if the mount point is recessed or not (it should be).

The bumpers are not rubber. They are a hard plastic. Perhaps a grove could be milled (drummel). I'm have them installed tomorrow. I'll take pictures and see if there is any room to alter to allow the saddelbags guards.

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[Sun Devil]

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Wow, Thanks for the tip. I had a tough time this afternoon figuring out how to scan the Instructions for the Seat Bumper kit and then save to a memory stick and open and save to my desktop and the attach to my post. Thanks again for the quote tip.

[sadunbar]

That looks like a fix that was the result of a 10 2 minute hallway meeting....

"Why don't we just...."  

"Yeah, o.k., whatever you think"

[Fired00d]

Wow, Thanks for the tip. I had a tough time this afternoon figuring out how to scan the Instructions for the Seat Bumper kit and then save to a memory stick and open and save to my desktop and the attach to my post. Thanks again for the quote tip.

You're welcome. Just remember when you do that to make sure you don't type/put your post inside of the quoted post. Look for [/quote] and type after that.

 
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Fired00d
 

[grc]

That looks like a fix that was the result of a 10 2 minute hallway meeting....

"Why don't we just...."  

"Yeah, o.k., whatever you think"

Scott, I think this "fix" was the result of a 10 second meeting between bean counting upper management and the engineer tasked with coming up with a fix.  Been there, done that, bean counters tended to win about 99.8% of the time with no further discussion tolerated.  Ask the folks at Toyota about that method, btw.  It seems to be working really well for them lately (not).

I'll guess that, assuming H-D continues with the same seat design, you will see a running change in the seat pan with two stand-offs molded into the plastic that will contact the frame.  Much cheaper in production than adding a couple bumpers and a couple bolts.  Also much cheaper than a redesign of the pan to eliminate all the flexing.

Jerry

[Hawg]

Scott, I think this "fix" was the result of a 10 second meeting between bean counting upper management and the engineer tasked with coming up with a fix.  Been there, done that, bean counters tended to win about 99.8% of the time with no further discussion tolerated.  Ask the folks at Toyota about that method, btw.  It seems to be working really well for them lately (not).

I'll guess that, assuming H-D continues with the same seat design, you will see a running change in the seat pan with two stand-offs molded into the plastic that will contact the frame.  Much cheaper in production than adding a couple bumpers and a couple bolts.  Also much cheaper than a redesign of the pan to eliminate all the flexing.

Jerry

Don't forget the drafting of the instructions on how to mount the bumpers 

[RedDevil]

Fortunately, I'm not one of those "I told you so" type of people.  Read my post #168 and you'll see I predicted, just like Jerry did, what the MoCo would do for a "fix".  When the accountants run the asylum, the practical and realistic solution will never be made at the expense of profit.

[ScreaminStreetGlide]

If it gets rid of the gap I am happy.  Now I have to buy saddlebag guards so I can figure out how to make both work together.  It can't be that complicated.

[Sun Devil]

Here is a picture of the Seat Bumper Kit # 54396-10. Note: This kit is NOT compatible with saddlebag guard rails. I call HD customer service and was told this is the only kit available to "fix" the seat. I'm sure one of you guys will machine this or make a better bumper. Please let us know.

[Sun Devil]

Here is the side view.