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[Kingspoke]

I had a good laugh yesterday, when I called around to see which dealer had a CVO Limited on the floor.  A salesman at one of the dealers said he only had one coming, in Oct., and I would need to give him 5K deposit now if I wanted him to hold it for me!

I really love my 2012 CVO and plan to keep it a long time.  It runs great and handles very well, with the exception of the spongy front end, which I plan to upgrade soon.  On the other hand if I wasn't so satisfied with my current bike I would jump on a CVO Limited because it has so many upgrades.  Not crazy about the vented fairing but you can chrome it, go carbon fiber, or paint it to blend in.

[HDultraDad]

I had a good laugh yesterday, when I called around to see which dealer had a CVO Limited on the floor.  A salesman at one of the dealers said he only had one coming, in Oct., and I would need to give him 5K deposit now if I wanted him to hold it for me!

I really love my 2012 CVO and plan to keep it a long time. 

  I'm on that bandwagon!

[davidw221]

Harley Davidson needed to do something about their business model, I read an article a couple years ago about how Harley Davidson makes more money on Tee shirts and coffee mugs than on selling motorcycles, I thought back then, they need to change their bikes if they want to be more competitive.
Most Harley riders are of the older generation, most of the younger riders choose a different brand, there could be the argument of Harley's are more expensive, but younger buyers will look at Harley Davidson hasn't changed their models or their technical aspect to building their product, others have!
IMHO, I believe Harley Davidson, is looking for future buyers and technology that attract the younger consumer.
I also think, more changes are on the way in the future with Harley Davidson.
This is a radical change for Harley Davidson, just look at all the post in here to prove they have interest in their new product.
Anyone notice these radical changes came after a certain member of the family retired?
Just sayin!!!!!

[HDultraDad]

Harley Davidson needed to do something about their business model, I read an article a couple years ago about how Harley Davidson makes more money on Tee shirts and coffee mugs than on selling motorcycles, I thought back then, they need to change their bikes if they want to be more competitive.
Most Harley riders are of the older generation, most of the younger riders choose a different brand, there could be the argument of Harley's are more expensive, but younger buyers will look at Harley Davidson hasn't changed their models or their technical aspect to building their product, others have!
IMHO, I believe Harley Davidson, is looking for future buyers and technology that attract the younger consumer.
I also think, more changes are on the way in the future with Harley Davidson.
This is a radical change for Harley Davidson, just look at all the post in here to prove they have interest in their new product.
Anyone notice these radical changes came after a certain member of the family retired?

Just sayin!!!!!

I agree on changes and tech needing to be added, but I disagree with it due to trying to get younger riders to buy H-D bikes.  Young riders probably do not have the money or credit to purchase H-D bikes.  Victory and now Indian brand bikes are filling the price gap.  I do think as with the auto industry that when a good idea takes hold, other car companies try to integrate it into their own line. In MoCo's case they have changed controls and infotainment.  However, they are and will have problems with the wet heads. 

The wet heads only come on when temp calls for it. Delta T is 20 to 30 degrees.  Unless I am stuck in traffic, that feature is useless.  They cannot fully integrate water cooling because we will lose the Harley look and sound.

So for me it comes down to this: if I want a bike and I am on anything but a H-d how will it feel pulling up to a stop light next to Harley's?  Vice versa,  when on my CVO and I pull up to a bunch of metric bikes...priceless.

[Vincent]

I don't believe the retirement of Willy G had anything to do with this huge list of updates and improvements,
it's more likely the company has finally realized that they have to compete with Polaris or lose out on sales.
Victory and more importantly the new Indian will make a difference.
Customers will vote with their feet when they see what those brands are offering for less money than we pay.

[dlaws01]

I just wished that their motorcycles were as reliable as a coffee mug.   

[Kingspoke]

I'm on that bandwagon!

It's a good wagon to be on!

[Kingspoke]

I just wished that their motorcycles were as reliable as a coffee mug.   

It's good to see the leadership in Moco stepping it up technology wise which will lead to better reliability.  Personally, in 35 years of owning Harley's I've never had any major problems and never had a break down.  Despite my personal experiences, "consumer's reports" supports your sentiments regarding reliability.

The bikes have been getting better every year, beginning with the new frames in 2009, and this year was a giant leap in saftey, performance, & convenience.  As long as Moco does not cheapen up on the bikes as I have seen in recent years (including crucial parts as bearing, etc.), Moco will maintain it's dominance in the cruiser market.

Moco gets an 'A' from me this year on the 2014 CVO Limited, for all the great improvements and still keeping that Harley appeal!

Good point Dlaws01! :2vrolijk_

Not the CVO but good illustration here:

[Kingspoke]

My bad, on reporting the amp under the tour pack, it's in the fairing under the infotainment center.  Just arrived at Eaglesnest HD & confirmed with the sales mgr.

 

[North Georgia Hawg]

 

I just wished that their motorcycles were as reliable as a coffee mug.   

I have several H-D logo coffee mugs, and NONE of them have EVER leaked ONE DROP of coffee!

Full disclosure: I have spilled a bit... now and then... especially when there is Kahlua or Tia Maria or Baileys in it...

Ken

[muddypaws]

I only see 4 gauges on the dash and no information on the HD web site.

[Twolanerider]

I only see 4 gauges on the dash and no information on the HD web site.

Info from the other now lost gauges (and a bit of other data) display through the face of the radio.

[muddypaws]

Oil temp would be nice..

[Twolanerider]

Oil temp would be nice..

There is supposed to be an "engine temp" report as part of the data display.

[oe542bob]

Hey, Kingspoke, you're saying you can confirm that the amp is not under the tour pack! Now that would make the tour pack much easier to be detachable. I know from the limited pics I saw, I couldn't see the amp mounted under the tour pack. But wasn't sure with the angles I saw. That makes a '14 much more interesting along with some of the other changes. 

My bad, on reporting the amp under the tour pack, it's in the fairing under the infotainment center.  Just arrived at Eaglesnest HD & confirmed with the sales mgr.